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'''Thales''' (in [[Greek language|Greek]]: Θαλης) '''of [[Miletus]]''' (ca. [[630s B.C.E.|635 B.C.E.]]-[[543 B.C.E.]]), also known as '''Thales the Milesian''', was a [[Pre-Socratic philosophy|pre-Socratic]] [[Hellenes|Greek]] [[philosopher]] and one of the [[Seven Sages of Greece]]. Many regard him as the first philosopher in the Greek tradition as well as the father of [[science]].
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'''Thales''' (in [[Greek language|Greek]]: Θαλης) '''of [[Miletus]]''' (ca. 624 – 546 B.C.E.), also known as '''Thales the Milesian,''' was a [[Pre-Socratic philosophy|pre-Socratic]] Greek philosopher and one of the [[Seven Sages of Greece]]. Since [[Aristotle]] credited him with being the first philosopher (''Metaphysics'' 983b6), Thales has been known to be the first representative of Western philosophy.
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Contrary to [[Polytheism|polytheistic]] [[Greek mythology]], which ascribed social and natural phenomena to the arbitrary will, tricks, anger, and jealousy of the gods, Thales tried to explain these phenomena based upon unchanging [[principles]]. His dramatic quest for the principle that could uniformly explain all phenomena had the potential to free people from superstitious beliefs. By opening this new perspective, Thales prepared the way for subsequent [[pre-Socratic philosophy|pre-Socratic philosophers]] to pursue fundamental principles in their own way.
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By thus breaking the framework of Greek mythology and speculative beliefs of his day, Thales opened a new ground for the pursuit of truth. Aristotle’s recognition of Thales as the first philosopher rests on this perspective of inquiring for unchanging, unifying principles. The significance of Thales lies not in his particular cosmology but in his way of inquiry.  
  
 
==Life==
 
==Life==
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Thales lived in the city of [[Miletus]], in [[Ionia]], now western [[Turkey]]. According to [[Herodotus]], he was of [[Phoenicia]]n descent. It was said that Thales had no children but adopted his nephew as his son.
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Thales lived in the city of [[Miletus]], in [[Ionia]], now western [[Turkey]]. According to [[Herodotus]], he was of [[Phoenicia]]n descent. It was said that Thales had no children but adopted his nephew as his son.
  
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The well-traveled Ionians had many dealings with [[Ancient Egypt|Egypt]] and [[Babylon]], and Thales may have studied in Egypt as a young man. In any event, Thales almost certainly had exposure to [[Egyptian mythology]], [[Egyptian astronomy|astronomy]], and [[Egyptian mathematics|mathematics]], as well as to other traditions alien to the [[Homer|Homeric]] traditions of Greece. Perhaps because of this his inquiries into the nature of things took him beyond traditional mythology.
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The well-traveled Ionians had many dealings with [[Ancient Egypt|Egypt]] and [[Babylon]], and Thales may have had exposure to [[Egyptian mythology]], [[Egyptian astronomy|astronomy]], and [[Egyptian mathematics|mathematics]], as well as to other traditions foreign to the [[Homer|Homeric]] traditions of Greece. [[Proclus]], a fifth-century C.E. philosopher, noted Thales’ exposure to Egyptian geometry. The discovery of several geometrical theorems was also credited to him.
  
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Several anecdotes suggest that Thales was not solely a thinker; he was involved in business and politics.  One story recounts that he bought all the [[olive press]]es in Miletus after predicting the weather and a good harvest for a particular year. Another version of this same story states that he bought the presses to demonstrate to his fellow Milesians that he could use his intelligence to enrich himself. However, looking at his way of thinking, getting rich was not his intent; merely to show people that by being a philosopher it was easy to enrich himself without it being the point of the exercise. Herodotus recorded that Thales advised the city-states of Ionia to form a [[federation]].
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[[Herodotus]], a fifth-century B.C.E..e. historian, recorded Thales’ prediction of a solar eclipse that put an end of the battle between King [[Alyattes]] of [[Lydia]] and King [[Cyaxares]] of [[Media]]. Both [[Xenophanes]] and [[Diogenes Laertius]] also noted this event.
  
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Thales is said to have died in his seat, while watching an [[athletic]] contest.
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One story recounts that he bought all the [[olive press]]es in Miletus after predicting the weather and a good harvest for a particular year. Another version of this same story states that he bought the presses to demonstrate to his fellow Milesians that he could use his intelligence to enrich himself. [[Herodotus]] recorded that Thales advised the city-states of Ionia to form a [[federation]].
  
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Various sayings, discoveries, and accomplishments have been ascribed to him, but their authenticity is uncertain. As is the case with other wise men, Thales probably had a broad knowledge in diverse areas, such as mathematics, astronomy, meteorology, politics, and others.
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Before Thales, the Greeks explained the origin and nature of the world through [[mythology|myths]] of [[Anthropomorphism|anthropomorphic]] [[Deity|gods]] and [[hero]]es. Phenomena like [[lightning]] or [[earthquake]]s were attributed to actions of the gods.
 
  
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By contrast, Thales attempted to find [[naturalistic]] explanations of the world, without reference to the [[supernatural]]. He explained earthquakes by imagining that the [[Earth]] floats on water, and that earthquakes occur when the Earth is rocked by waves. [[Herodotus]] cites him as having predicted the [[solar eclipse]] of [[585 B.C.E.]] that put an end to fighting between the [[Lydia]]ns and the [[Medes]].
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Thales is said to have died in his seat, while watching an [[athletic]] contest.
  
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Thales' most famous belief was his [[cosmology|cosmological]] doctrine, which held that the world originated from [[water]]. [[Aristotle]] considered this belief roughly equivalent to the later ideas of [[Anaximenes of Miletus|Anaximenes]], who held that everything in the world was composed of [[air]].  Thus it is sometimes assumed that Thales considered everything to be made from water. According to [[G.E.R. Lloyd|Lloyd]], however, it is likely that while Thales saw water as an origin, he never pondered whether water continued to be the substance of the world.
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==Philosophy==
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Thales ascribed ultimate being to water. Within the framework of the [[ontology]] of [[form]] and [[matter]], Aristotle interpreted him as a predecessor who had discovered a material cause of being. Based upon Aristotle’s interpretation, Thales is often characterized as a natural philosopher.
  
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Thales had a profound influence on other Greek thinkers and therefore on [[Western world|Western]] history. Some believe [[Anaximander]] was a pupil of Thales. Early sources report that one of Anaximander's more famous pupils, [[Pythagoras]], visited Thales as a young man, and that Thales advised him to travel to Egypt to further his philosophical and mathematical studies.
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Like other pre-Socratic philosophers, however, his concept of material has mythical connotations. Aristotle noted Thales’ word “All things are filled with gods” (''On the Soul'' 411a7). The phrase indicates that Thales’ [[cosmology]] has mystical elements and “water” should not be interpreted as a pure material in a modern sense.
  
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Many philosophers followed Thales' lead in searching for explanations in [[nature]] rather than in the supernatural; others returned to supernatural explanations, but couched them in the language of philosophy rather than myth or [[religion]].
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Thales’ philosophy can be characterized as a “philosophy of life” (water, development), and his concept of water should be interpreted within this framework.
  
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When you specifically look at the influence Thales had in the pre-Socrates era, he was one of the first thinkers who thought more in the way of ''logos'' than ''mythos''. The difference between these two more profound ways of seeing the world is that ''mythos'' is concentrated around the stories of holy origin, while ''logos'' is concentrated around the argumentation. When the mythical man wants to explain the world the way he sees it, he explains it based on gods and powers. The mythical thought does not differ between things and persons and furthermore it does not differ between nature and culture. The way a ''logos'' thinker would present the view on the world is radically different than the mythical thinker. In its concrete form, ''logos'' is a way of thinking not only about individualism, but also the abstract. Furthermore, it focuses on sensible and continuous argumentation. This lays the foundation of [[philosophy]] and it's way of explaining the world in terms of abstract argumentation, and not in the way of gods and mythical stories.  
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Thales seems to have maintained the reality of souls in beings such as the entire cosmos and individual things in nature. Diogenes Laertius also notes Thales' view of the immortality of the soul. Here we can thus find the indication of an incipient form of dual characteristics of internal character (soul) and external form (body), a view which was developed by subsequent thinkers. This idea of Thales is implicitly described by Aristotle (''De Anima'' A5411a7).
  
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Thales is credited with first popularizing [[geometry]] in [[Ancient Greece|ancient Greek]] culture, mainly that of [[spatial relationships]].  He is the first one who separated trigonometry as an independant group from Mathematics, to be one of the four basic "elements" of geometry.  The other three elements of geometry are about long, square and cube of an object.
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His writings only survive in fragmentary quotes and passages in the works of other authors. No text contains Thales’ own views: what he meant by “water” and why he thought that it is the ultimate remains unclear. We can only speculate about the likely reasoning of Thales: that water is vital to life and nourishes living organisms; Thales thought that the Earth existed as a mass that floats on water (Aristotle, ''Metaphysics'' 983b21; ''On the Heaven'' 294a28); water can change from and to vapor, liquid, and ice; water circulates in the entire natural world; water is used in religious rituals for purification and other uses.
  
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The origin of these ideas can be traced back to various traditions of his time. The idea that the Earth is floating on water, for example, existed in Egyptian traditions. The vital importance of water was commonly recognized. We can speculate that Thales developed his thought based upon these ideas.
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Most of our sources for information on the Miletian philosophers (Thales, [[Anaximander]], and [[Anaximenes of Miletus|Anaximenes]]) are the works of much later writers. The primary source for Thales' philosophy is Aristotle, who credited him with the first inquiry into the causes of things.  
 
  
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Thales may or may not have written books. It is certain, however, that Aristotle did not have access to any work of Thales, and was writing from secondary sources of his own. While Thales' historical importance is unquestioned, this introduces a good deal of uncertainty into our understanding of him.
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==References==
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*Diels, H., and W. Kranz, eds. ''Die Fragmente der Vorsocratiker.'' Berlin: Weidmannsche Verlagsbuchhandlung, 1960.
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*Freeman, K., ed. ''Ancilla to the pre-Socratic philosophers.'' Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1983.  
  
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*Barnes, Jonathan. ''The Presocratic Philosophers,'' vol. 1. London: Routledge, 1979.
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*[[Thales' theorem]]
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*Furley, David, and R.E. Allen, eds. ''Studies in Presocratic Philosophy,'' vol. 1. New York: Humanities Press, 1970.
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*Hicks, R. D. ''Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers,'' 2 vols. Loeb Classical Library, 1925.
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*Kirk, G.S., J.E. Raven, and M. Schofield. ''The Presocratic Philosophers,'' 2nd ed. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1983.
  
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[[Nietzsche]], in his <u>Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks</u>, § 3, wrote: "Greek philosophy seems to begin with an absurd notion, with the proposition that ''water'' is the primal origin and the womb of all things. Is it really necessary for us to take serious notice of this proposition? It is, and for three reasons. First, because it tells us something about the primal origin of all things; second, because it does so in language devoid of image or fable, and finally, because contained in it, if only embryonically, is the thought, 'all things are one.'"
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*In the [[A&E Network|A&E]] television rendition of [[Nero Wolfe]], one of the antagonists, a [[mathematician]], uses the name "Milton Thales" as a pseudonym, a reference to Thales of Miletus.
 
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G.E.R. Lloyd, ''Early Greek Science: Thales to Aristotle''
 
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/t/thales.htm Thales of Miletus from The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
 
*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/t/thales.htm Thales of Miletus from The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
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*[http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Thales.html Thales of Miletus] from the MacTutor History of Mathematics archive
 
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Thales

Thales (in Greek: Θαλης) of Miletus (ca. 624 – 546 B.C.E.), also known as Thales the Milesian, was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher and one of the Seven Sages of Greece. Since Aristotle credited him with being the first philosopher (Metaphysics 983b6), Thales has been known to be the first representative of Western philosophy.

Contrary to polytheistic Greek mythology, which ascribed social and natural phenomena to the arbitrary will, tricks, anger, and jealousy of the gods, Thales tried to explain these phenomena based upon unchanging principles. His dramatic quest for the principle that could uniformly explain all phenomena had the potential to free people from superstitious beliefs. By opening this new perspective, Thales prepared the way for subsequent pre-Socratic philosophers to pursue fundamental principles in their own way.

By thus breaking the framework of Greek mythology and speculative beliefs of his day, Thales opened a new ground for the pursuit of truth. Aristotle’s recognition of Thales as the first philosopher rests on this perspective of inquiring for unchanging, unifying principles. The significance of Thales lies not in his particular cosmology but in his way of inquiry.

Life

Thales lived in the city of Miletus, in Ionia, now western Turkey. According to Herodotus, he was of Phoenician descent. It was said that Thales had no children but adopted his nephew as his son.

The well-traveled Ionians had many dealings with Egypt and Babylon, and Thales may have had exposure to Egyptian mythology, astronomy, and mathematics, as well as to other traditions foreign to the Homeric traditions of Greece. Proclus, a fifth-century C.E. philosopher, noted Thales’ exposure to Egyptian geometry. The discovery of several geometrical theorems was also credited to him.

Herodotus, a fifth-century B.C.E. historian, recorded Thales’ prediction of a solar eclipse that put an end of the battle between King Alyattes of Lydia and King Cyaxares of Media. Both Xenophanes and Diogenes Laertius also noted this event.

One story recounts that he bought all the olive presses in Miletus after predicting the weather and a good harvest for a particular year. Another version of this same story states that he bought the presses to demonstrate to his fellow Milesians that he could use his intelligence to enrich himself. Herodotus recorded that Thales advised the city-states of Ionia to form a federation.

Various sayings, discoveries, and accomplishments have been ascribed to him, but their authenticity is uncertain. As is the case with other wise men, Thales probably had a broad knowledge in diverse areas, such as mathematics, astronomy, meteorology, politics, and others.

Thales is said to have died in his seat, while watching an athletic contest.

Philosophy

Thales ascribed ultimate being to water. Within the framework of the ontology of form and matter, Aristotle interpreted him as a predecessor who had discovered a material cause of being. Based upon Aristotle’s interpretation, Thales is often characterized as a natural philosopher.

Like other pre-Socratic philosophers, however, his concept of material has mythical connotations. Aristotle noted Thales’ word “All things are filled with gods” (On the Soul 411a7). The phrase indicates that Thales’ cosmology has mystical elements and “water” should not be interpreted as a pure material in a modern sense.

Thales’ philosophy can be characterized as a “philosophy of life” (water, development), and his concept of water should be interpreted within this framework.

Thales seems to have maintained the reality of souls in beings such as the entire cosmos and individual things in nature. Diogenes Laertius also notes Thales' view of the immortality of the soul. Here we can thus find the indication of an incipient form of dual characteristics of internal character (soul) and external form (body), a view which was developed by subsequent thinkers. This idea of Thales is implicitly described by Aristotle (De Anima A5411a7).

His writings only survive in fragmentary quotes and passages in the works of other authors. No text contains Thales’ own views: what he meant by “water” and why he thought that it is the ultimate remains unclear. We can only speculate about the likely reasoning of Thales: that water is vital to life and nourishes living organisms; Thales thought that the Earth existed as a mass that floats on water (Aristotle, Metaphysics 983b21; On the Heaven 294a28); water can change from and to vapor, liquid, and ice; water circulates in the entire natural world; water is used in religious rituals for purification and other uses.

The origin of these ideas can be traced back to various traditions of his time. The idea that the Earth is floating on water, for example, existed in Egyptian traditions. The vital importance of water was commonly recognized. We can speculate that Thales developed his thought based upon these ideas.

References
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  • Diels, H., and W. Kranz, eds. Die Fragmente der Vorsocratiker. Berlin: Weidmannsche Verlagsbuchhandlung, 1960.
  • Freeman, K., ed. Ancilla to the pre-Socratic philosophers. Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1983.
  • Barnes, Jonathan. The Presocratic Philosophers, vol. 1. London: Routledge, 1979.
  • Furley, David, and R.E. Allen, eds. Studies in Presocratic Philosophy, vol. 1. New York: Humanities Press, 1970.
  • Hicks, R. D. Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 2 vols. Loeb Classical Library, 1925.
  • Kirk, G.S., J.E. Raven, and M. Schofield. The Presocratic Philosophers, 2nd ed. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1983.

External links

All links retrieved April 30, 2023.

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